March 17, 2007

[Sean Pa]

I think the problem rather than a political one is now sadly a reflection of society. two cases in recent years have for me been thought provoking and just plain sad.
Both my grandfather were killed as a result of injuries from ww2, One is buried close to me in the grounds of an old rural church in the new forest, Home to graves from the 1800s and several Titanic victims and lots of war vetrans reflective of the effect the great wars had even on small rural communitys.
A couple of years ago, Taking my gandmother to the grave we were greated by the sight of mass vandalism too the graves, ancient headstones pushed over and smashed irrepairable damage.
My Grandmother is a hard woman,worked hard all her life bringing up my father alone, widowed at 18 never moaning or claiming assistance, she would never show emmotion, its not the English way, But I could tell her hurt.
And I have to wonder who could do such things, sadly respect has now dissapeared from the world, Why I dont know??
Your wall will be safe,Its so high profile no-one dare damage the wall,But worry about the Grave of "Joe Bloggs" killed defending his country buried in a church field in Montana and some Jerk feels no shame kicking over his grave. [img]frown.gif[/img]

[travelinman]

Without personal responsibility there is no respect. When a society loses respect it either falls into anarchy or totalitarianism. This is always the end result of liberalism.

[travelinman]

We made Yahoo today.

It must be a movement.

Contact: Kristinn Taylor of A Gathering of Eagles, +1-202-309-1589, [email protected]


WASHINGTON, Feb. 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Vietnam veterans will be gathering in Washington, D.C., on Saturday, March 17, 2007, to protect the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (The Wall) and other war memorials from desecration by protesters attending a so-called antiwar rally being held that day adjacent to The Wall. The veterans intend to prevent a recurrence of what happened at a similar event on January 27, 2007, when protesters spray-painted the Capitol and spat on a disabled Iraq vet.


"A Gathering of Eagles," as the veterans are calling their effort, is being joined by other patriotic groups including Rolling Thunder, Military Order of the Purple Heart (MOPH), Move America Forward and FreeRepublic.com. Those organizations are encouraging their members and supporters to protect The Wall and to stand up for their brothers and sisters in arms in Iraq.


The announcement by International ANSWER, the communist Workers World Party front group organizing the antiwar rally on March 17, that their rally would be held "...at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (Constitution Gardens)" has provoked a visceral reaction from U.S. veterans who are vowing not to let the anti-American left do to this generation of military men and women what was done to the Vietnam War generation.


Vietnam veterans COL Harry Riley, USA (Ret.), and CAPT Larry Bailey, USN (Ret.), are heading up "A Gathering of Eagles." They have set a standard of lawful, non-violent, non-confrontational behavior for veterans gathering to protect The Wall.


Away from The Wall, veterans and other patriotic Americans will gather in permitted areas on Henry Bacon Drive and Constitution Avenue to voice their support for our troops and for victory in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere in the war on terror.


Source

[cincygreg]

Looks like decent weather for it...


http://www.weather.com/outlook/event...01?from=search

[Lew]

Sean Pa-

I thought "The English Way" was 'hanging on in quiet desperation' [img]wink.gif[/img]

But I concur with your assessment. And I agree with Trav and Gae's conclusion (that we're on the downward spiral) but I don't attach an ideological connotation to it. No empire lasts forever. Even Rome fell eventually. Why should we be any different?

There are two things that have an indeterminate shelf-life: styrofoam, and "Soul Train." Everything else comes and goes, that's just the way it is.

[travelinman]

Edward Gibbon (April 27, 1737[1] ? January 16, 1794) was an English historian and Member of Parliament. His most important work, The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire was published in six volumes between 1776 and 1788.

Edward Gibbon famously placed the blame on a loss of civic virtue among the Roman citizens. They gradually outsourced their duties to defend the Empire to barbarian mercenaries who eventually turned on them. Gibbon considered that Christianity had contributed to this, making the populace less interested in the worldly here-and-now and more willing to wait for the rewards of heaven. "[T]he decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the causes of destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and as soon as time or accident had removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric yielded to the pressure of its own weight," he wrote. "In discussing Barbarism and Christianity I have actually been discussing the Fall of Rome."

Gibbon's work is notable for its erratic, but exhaustively documented, notes and research. Interestingly, since he was writing in the eighteenth century, Gibbon also mentioned the climate, while reserving naming it as a cause of the decline, saying "the climate (whatsoever may be its influence) was no longer the same." While judging the loss of civic virtue and the rise of Christianity to be a lethal combination, Gibbon did find other factors possibly contributing in the decline.

[travelinman]

Groups to Announce Plans to
Protect Vietnam Veterans Memorial
and Rally for Troops
WASHINGTON, Feb. 20 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released today by the Gathering of Eagles:

When: 9:30 a.m. Thursday, February 22, 2007

Where: The National Press Club
First Amendment Lounge
529 14th St., NW, 13th Floor
Washington, D.C. 20045

Who: Larry Bailey, Co-Chairman, Gathering of Eagles
Ted Shpak, National Legislative Director, Rolling Thunder
Jeff Roy, National Junior Vice Commander, Military Order of the Purple Heart

Spokesmen for three veterans organizations which are urging their members to rally in Washington, D.C. on March 17, 2007, to protect the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (The Wall) from antiwar protesters will be holding a press conference at 9:30 a.m., Thursday, February 22, 2007, at the National Press Club to announce their plans to protect The Wall and rally for America's servicemen and women serving in Iraq.

Word has been spreading like wildfire across the country in the veterans' community about the plans of an anti-American group to hold an antiwar rally on Saturday, March 17, 2007 at, according to their announcement, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (Constitution Gardens.)

The Gathering of Eagles was formed by Vietnam veterans to protect the Vietnam Veterans Memorial from being desecrated as the Capitol was at an antiwar march last month. While there is no way to accurately gauge attendance, it is expected that thousands of veterans, their families and other patriotic Americans will gather that day to protect The Wall and other war memorials.

In addition to Rolling Thunder and the Military Order of the Purple Heart, participants in the Gathering of Eagles rally include Move America Forward, which is organizing a cross-country caravan that will bring Gold and Blue Star parents and veterans to the Gathering of Eagles, and FreeRepublic.com.

SOURCE Gathering of Eagles

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Related links:

http://www.gatheringofeagles.org

http://www.press.org

[Lew]

I think there is just a natural tendency for everything to end. Remember when you were a kid and you went to King's Island, and how wonderful it was but then the sun started going down and you knew that the day was going to end.


Same thing with us as a nation. We started off just a rag-tag group of colonies, oppressed by Sean Pa's people [img]wink.gif[/img] Then we united and started to go west. Sure those pesky natives tried to get into our way but we quickly eradicated them. Didn't take long for us to become a player.

Well, then Trav's group had to throw a wrench in the works with their act of tre- I mean, secession.

But we overcame that and moved on. And WWI came around and every nation that fought in it suffered and was worse off because of it, except for us. Then WWII rolled around and while other nations lost millions and millions we kept our losses under 500K. And we had our baby boom and TV and the American dream and all that.

And everything was good (well, it wasn't, but people thought it was) which meant that, well, that can't last forever.

My generation was dumber than the one before me. The one after me was dumber than mine. The one we have now......sweet lamb of God.....what do you think the next one is going to be like?

Still can't get rid of that mole in the backyard, but thank God for the blogosphere......